Door windows

[panamericans]

Yes, I must agree, it is true that when in a serious accident the door (or doors) might not open. Then again it is also equally true in such situations the impact force will cause these same windows to shatter, as tempered glass is designed to do. Side impact and frontal crash tests have repeatedly demonstrated this reality . The real danger in experiencing such traumatic accidents is getting impaled or crushed inside the vehicle.

When it comes to ‘police impersonators’, rapist and such other nefarious ilk, the ‘roll down window’ will give a false illusion of security… Once rolled down, the occupant’s safety is seriously compromised…. Road safety is about being aware… be it with vehicular traffic, pedestrians or being approached by ‘strangers’. One must judge each situation accordingly…as if one’s life depends on it.… It is one’s discretion that is the critical safety 'design feature’ in such situations.

What has been expressed on this subject so far are hypothetical projections and no more. Does it really matter if the windows are ‘flush fitted’ or ‘roll down’, as both have their merits and driver preferences?… However, it would be nice for a purchaser to have the option to select either format.... Why can’t it be so? In my opinion, it only enhances the attraction of the flexibility of Aptera’s many design merits, which helps make it stand out from the ordinary.

I also noticed in a short video where Chris Anthony of Aptera Motors mentioned that the car’s climate control will handle 120 degree outside temperatures to bring a parked car down to 75 degrees internally. Considering this is based on a heat pump system …it certainly could be possible… If one is comfortable on the inside, the windows are not critical to have in an opened position…but again, this is a matter of personal preferences…. “via de la Différence”.

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[panamericans]

Yes, I must agree, it is true that when in a serious accident the door (or doors) might not open. Then again it is also equally true in such situations the impact force will cause these same windows to shatter, as tempered glass is designed to do. Side impact and frontal crash tests have already demonstrated this reality repeatedly. The real danger in experiencing such traumatic accidents is getting impaled or crushed inside the vehicle.

When it comes to ‘police impersonators’, rapist and such other nefarious ilk, the ‘roll down window’ will give a false illusion of security… Once rolled down, the occupant’s safety is seriously compromised…. That is precisely what the ‘impersonator’ wants to achieve in the first place. Road safety is about being aware… be it with vehicular traffic, pedestrians or being approached by ‘strangers’. One must judge each situation accordingly…as if one’s life depends on it.… It is one’s discretion that is the critical safety design ‘feature’ in such situations.

What has been expressed on this subject so far are hypothetical projections and no more. Does it really matter if the windows are ‘flush fitted’ or ‘roll down’, as both have their merits and driver preferences?… However, it would be nice for a purchaser to have the option to select either format.... Why can’t it be so? In my opinion, it only enhances the attraction of the flexibility of Aptera’s many design merits, which helps make it stand out from the ordinary.

I also noticed in a short video where Chris Anthony of Aptera Motors mentioned that the car’s climate control will handle 120 degree outside temperatures to bring a parked car down to 75 degrees internally. Considering this is based on a heat pump system …it certainly could be possible… If one is comfortable on the inside, the windows are not critical to have in an opened position…but again, this is a matter of personal preferences…. “via de la Différence”.

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[panamericans]

Yes, I must agree, it is true that when in a serious accident the door (or doors) might not open. Then again it is also equally true in such situations the impact force will cause these same windows to shatter, as tempered glass is designed to do. Side impact and frontal crash tests have already demonstrated this reality repeatedly. The real danger in experiencing such traumatic accidents is getting impaled or crushed inside the vehicle.

When it comes to ‘police impersonators’, rapist and such other nefarious ilk, the ‘roll down window’ will give a false illusion of security… Once rolled down, the occupant’s safety is seriously compromised…. That is precisely what the ‘impersonator’ wants to achieve in the first place. Road safety is about being aware… be it with vehicular traffic, pedestrians or being approached by ‘strangers’. One must judge each situation accordingly…as if one’s life depends on it.… It is one’s discretion that is the critical safety design ‘feature’ in such situations.

What has been expressed on this subject so far are hypothetical projections and no more. Does it really matter if the windows are ‘flush fitted’ or ‘roll down’, as both have their merits and driver preferences?… However, it would be nice for a purchaser to have the option to select either format.... Why can’t it be so? In my opinion, it only enhances the attraction of the flexibility of Aptera’s many design merits, which helps make it stand out from the ordinary.

I also noticed in a short video where Chris Anthony of Aptera Motors mentioned that the car’s climate control will handle 120 degree outside temperatures to bring a parked car down to 75 degrees internally. Considering this is based on a heat pump system …it certainly could be possible… If one is comfortable on the inside, the windows are not critical to have in an opened position…but again, this is a matter of personal preferences…. “via de la Différence”.

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[panamericans]

Yes, I must agree, it is true that when in a serious accident the door (or doors) might not open. Then again it is also equally true in such situations the impact force will cause these same windows to shatter, as tempered glass is designed to do. Side impact and frontal crash tests have already demonstrated this reality repeatedly. The real danger in experiencing such traumatic accidents is getting impaled or crushed inside the vehicle.

When it comes to ‘police impersonators’, rapist and such other nefarious ilk, the ‘roll down window’ will give a false illusion of security… Once rolled down, the occupant’s safety is seriously compromised…. That is precisely what the ‘impersonator’ wants to achieve in the first place. Road safety is about being aware… be it with vehicular traffic, pedestrians or being approached by ‘strangers’. One must judge each situation accordingly…as if one’s life depends on it.… It is one’s discretion that is the critical safety design ‘feature’ in such situations.

What has been expressed on this subject so far are hypothetical projections and no more. Does it really matter if the windows are ‘flush fitted’ or ‘roll down’, as both have their merits and driver preferences?… However, it would be nice for a purchaser to have the option to select either format.... Why can’t it be so? In my opinion, it only enhances the attraction of the flexibility of Aptera’s many design merits, which helps make it stand out from the ordinary.

I also noticed in a short video where Chris Anthony of Aptera Motors mentioned that the car’s climate control will handle 120 degree outside temperatures to bring a parked car down to 75 degrees internally. Considering this is based on a heat pump system …it certainly could be possible… If one is comfortable on the inside, the windows are not critical to have in an opened position…but again, this is a matter of personal preferences…. “via de la Différence”.

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[futura]

Sorry if this posted twice...can't see it.
So, awhile ago I posted my "druthers" list http://www.apteraforum.com/showthread.php?t=488 and one of the areas of concern was the roll-down window design. Well I noticed in the BusinessWire post...http://www.businesswire.com/portal/s...&newsLan g=en there's a high-res photo of the "new-hire" at Aptera. He's standing next to the proto and it appears the door-window is taped off in a "suggestive way"....uh you know suggesting how the "roll-down" window will be implemented...maybe. See expanded view here: Attachment 78
Neil_Photo.jpg
Cheers.

[gg222]

Maybe if you want the window rolled down you take the tape off. When you want it back up, you tape the window back on. But honestly Futura, good eyes.

[LQUAN]

Just as I suspected and mentioned earlier on this post. They probably have to make the roll down windows similar to the Lamborghini Countach or Subaru SVX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Alcyone_SVX.jpg

Just enough for you to stick your arm out to pay toll road and get drive-thru meals.

[c0mp13x]

Wow futura that is a awesome catch you made. Very subtle, but obviously gray tape on the window and probably the outline of a roll-down window idea.

I like the shape, and LQUAN I saw a Subaru SVX on the road just last week after not seeing one for years. Those "segmented" windows were a real eye-catcher on that 1991 Giugiaro design. I've always admired his company's automotive design.

Also- this whole window design problem may indicate that there is still more design and engineering for new VP Hannemann to help figure out than was speculated over in the "ApteraForum company" New VP thread. We'll see...

[KarenRei]

Huh, clever. I've never seen a window like that before (or at least noticed one). At first my reaction was, "Aww, only part of the window goes down?" But after thinking about it some more, it's a great solution; you still get to see out of a huge window, but you don't have to find a place to cram the whole thing into. The part that rolls down should still be at least 2/3rds the size of the entire window on the Volt, possibly more

The bigger they make it, the better in my opinion, but at least this one is solved. Great catch!

[jenkins_pete]

Given the production schedule I don't understand how there can be no information on the windows at this time!? Doesn't this already need to be solved to make the production schedule?

It seems people are debating having opening windows or not but that is a moot point, the windows _will_ open. The question is how will they open. There is no possible way given the current design for them to full open. Does anyone know when the design is to be actually locked down?

There is frustratingly little information out of Aptera and their newsletters are a complete joke. I mean there is basically no new information each time for anyone that follows EVs in the news.