Sherman Lives

[Adreitz]

I'll second Pat in this -- it would be nice to know whether the SO-1 actually performed as poorly as people speculated about on here, or whether it was simply a matter of comparing apples and oranges (constant 55mph vs. EPA/EPA-like cycle).

Aaron

[randyd]

Originally Posted by Adreitz

I'll second Pat in this -- it would be nice to know whether the SO-1 actually performed as poorly as people speculated about on here, or whether it was simply a matter of comparing apples and oranges (constant 55mph vs. EPA/EPA-like cycle).

Aaron

No, no, no. We need spend no more time/energy proving Team B was incompetent, or that their creation was flawed. What's the point?

But it would be very interesting to know more technical details about the prototypes, their performance, and how they achieved that performance.

[BryanSR]

I wish I had a place & the material...Not to mention a YOUNGER BODY!!!!! I could fix those fiberglass bodies that those JERKS broke up... After all I spent more that 20 years repairing Radomes and other fiberglass & composite components for the US Air Force!!!!
Can We do some DUMSTER DIVING?????????

[Rembrant]

I have to take exception to this comparison. There is only one similarity between them. Sherman was the right man/place/time. Wilbur was wrong on all three.

[evmavin]

My first impression of meeting Paul was very poor, even when he first came on board. Now I hope I run into him again so I can tell him what I thought privately a very long time ago. Paul, if you are in CA please leave this great state of innovation and go back to the place you fit in so well. I really look forward to hearing about your next job. I'm sure you found a way to keep yourself going until you meet another group of fools to BS. You never fooled me.

[Ken Fry]

I certainly don't know Paul Wilbur, but I'd approached him at some point, probably 2 years ago, with an idea for joint venture, and he seemed rational. Can he possibly be as inept (and even malicious) as the descriptions in this thread and elsewhere in the forum make him seem? Perhaps so. But if he is as malicious as some think he is, then some care in reminiscing would be well-advised, I think... no point in ending up in court if you just want to vent.

VC's are singularly inept at investing in things that they know little about. (And most are inept at investing in things that they know something about: most VC investments fail, which is why the terms are so egregious from the entrepreneur's perspective: they have to make up for all the flops.) Some VCs have some experience with software, but effectively none have successful experience with starting a car company. Typically, the CEO becomes the pawn of the investors, especially when things are not going well. Perhaps Paul was a self-destructive rogue, but I would not be surprised to find that he was acting on directives from the investors, who effectively own the company and can do with it as they please.

He may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is probably not single-handedly responsible for the failure of the company. Or maybe he was -- I wasn't there, and some of your were. But in any case, be careful that you don't maliciously slander the guy.

[SEGsby]

Slander has to be proven. But Paul's provided years of evidence to support his failures at Aptera, Saleen and previous ventures.

Frankly, no one is worried about this.

[Ken Fry]

Originally Posted by SEGsby

Frankly, no one is worried about this.

I gathered as much.