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Old 11-01-2011, 12:50 AM
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I like Steve's companies he has established like Famgro Inc. and Epic Vehicles and Boats but what company has Steve establish that people will remember for years to come. One word. Aptera.
My Six Steps on how to rebuild Aptera Motors Inc. from near bankrupty.
1.) Get Aptera Suppliers to invest their money in an Aptera equity stake.
Each supplier of the 22 Suppliers listed on Aptera Suppliers X Prize Web Site Page would be asked to invested $2 Million Dollars (USD) to have a total investment of $44 Million Dollars (USD). $30 Million Dollars (USD) would be used by Steve to get 100% of Aptera by means of a buyout of the companies on Aptera Current Board of Directors Equity Stake in Aptera.
Why would anyone invested any money in a failed business venture?
These suppliers would be begging Steve for the chance to invest in an Aptera Motors Inc. ran by him and his friend because if Aptera turns profitable, the suppliers will make a lot of money just selling parts to Aptera Motors Inc. to build the Aptera. Let's say that Aptera Motors Inc. goes out of business, these suppliers would lose the equivalent of a few cents to their business. A failed investment in Aptera would not hurt any of these companies anyway in their pocket books.
2.) Fired Aptera Management.
With Aptera Board of Directors equity stake in Aptera bought out by Steve Supplier Investors, everyone who came with Paul Wilbur (Undercover General Motors Worker) which would be current management be fired effective immediately. Aptera Current Managment has show us they cannot run a company even if they had to. Why let them keep destroying things that Steve has work so hard for? I feel sorry for Steve and his friend to see everything they work so hard for to help make this world a better place for everyone to live on to be thrown away like trash.
3.) Get Aptera Motors Inc. listed on NASDAQ.
Right now, only people who have assets over $1 Million Dollars (USD) can invested in Aptera Motors Inc. being a High Risk Start Up Company because of the SEC Accredited Investor Law. Right now in this part of the plan, Aptera Motors would still be close to bankruptcy still because Steve just used the $30 Million Dollar Investment he got from the suppliers to buy out Aptera Board of Directors Equity Stake. Now Aptera has only $11 Million Dollars to its name. $5 Million Dollars would be for the NASDAQ Listed Fee. Another $5 Million Dollars to pay for newspaper ads, youtube videos and etc. to get the word out there to the people that Aptera Motors Inc. is now going public. You can now buy your own stake in Aptera Motors Inc. The last $1 Million Dollars (USD) be left in the bank to keep Aptera funded until the Aptera Motors Inc. IPO on NASDQ. A lot of people went to invest in the Aptera 2e idea but they cannot invest because of the SEC Laws. When Aptera Motors Inc. gets listed on the NASDAQ, anyone anywhere in the world can buy a stake in Aptera. The total investment from NASDAQ Investors might bring in around $200 Million Dollars (USD).
4.) Design, build and run a factory to build Aptera 2e vehicles.
The $200 Million Dollars would be used to build a factory. The factory would be used to build Aptera 2e.
5.) Pay off all the investors with Interest.
When all Aptera debt is pay off and there is enough cash (profits) on hand to keep Aptera running for a few years, Aptera investors would be boughtout with a nice rate of interest if they chose or they can decide to keep their Aptera (Future Apple?) stock.
6.) The Aptera 2e is a good start but new Aptera Vehicles are needed.
But Aptera 2e cannot be used as the only product for the lifetime of Aptera Motors Inc. My idea is to have an Aptera Five seater (Two seats in front and three seats in back) four door three wheeler with hybrid power (Electric and Gasoline, Biodiesel) for sale in at least in a year from the finish of Step Five.

With all of your help, we can help make Aptera Motors Inc. great again.
The future of lightweight/aerodynamic vehicle revolution is coming, will you join us?

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Old 11-01-2011, 07:30 AM
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We are all hoping that this kind of scenario will come to pass. In a world where good things *should* be built, I hope that the 2e does go into production.

In the meantime, I will start building my own 5 seat long range electric car: http://www.apteraforum.com/showthread.php?t=4085

I think that when you combine an ultra aerodynamic shape that has a taper in the back with the need for 4+ seats, that you will need to have an unconventional arrangement, and a 3 person rear seat won't work. You can probably have 2 front, 2 middle and 1 rear; or 3 front, 2 rear, or a 2+3 (meaning the front 2 are fore adults and the rear 3 are for kids), or a staggered arrangement like I've used in CarBEN EV5.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:42 AM
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Nope.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:53 AM
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Truthseeker, please take a moment to review your statements. As your name impies, you want the truth.

Steve indeed founded Aptera, along with Chris, but he did NOT found Epic Vehicles and Boats. He did found Famgro. That is the truth.

"I like Steve's companies he has established like Famgro Inc. and Epic Vehicles and Boats but what company has Steve establish that people will remember for years to come. One word. Aptera."


My Six Steps on how to rebuild Aptera Motors Inc. from near bankrupty.
"1.) Get Aptera Suppliers to invest their money in an Aptera equity stake.
Each supplier of the 22 Suppliers listed on Aptera Suppliers X Prize Web Site Page would be asked to invested $2 Million Dollars (USD) to have a total investment of $44 Million Dollars (USD). $30 Million Dollars (USD) would be used by Steve to get 100% of Aptera by means of a buyout of the companies on Aptera Current Board of Directors Equity Stake in Aptera.
Why would anyone invested any money in a failed business venture?
These suppliers would be begging Steve for the chance to invest in an Aptera Motors Inc. ran by him and his friend because if Aptera turns profitable, the suppliers will make a lot of money just selling parts to Aptera Motors Inc. to build the Aptera. Let's say that Aptera Motors Inc. goes out of business, these suppliers would lose the equivalent of a few cents to their business. A failed investment in Aptera would not hurt any of these companies anyway in their pocket books."

Suppliers will not invest to make this a reality, because they don't need to. Suppliers in a position to offer "parts" as your list points out, are interested in fees for engineering and tooling. Period. Just because they "like" a car, doesn't mean they will put up funding. Also, the supplier relationships created and destroyed by Aptera Management mean the pool is smaller, so a whole new "list" would need to be created.

Further, they may beg Steve for a chance to invest, but they most certainly did NOT beg PW. Reality.

"2.) Fired Aptera Management.
With Aptera Board of Directors equity stake in Aptera bought out by Steve Supplier Investors, everyone who came with Paul Wilbur (Undercover General Motors Worker) which would be current management be fired effective immediately. Aptera Current Managment has show us they cannot run a company even if they had to. Why let them keep destroying things that Steve has work so hard for? I feel sorry for Steve and his friend to see everything they work so hard for to help make this world a better place for everyone to live on to be thrown away like trash."

If Paul Wilbur is an undercover GM worker (employee?), you should prove that. He worked at Chrysler, and ran ASC (a GM supplier and contract manufacturer).

But the basic idea to "fired" them is a no-brainer.

"3.) Get Aptera Motors Inc. listed on NASDAQ.
Right now, only people who have assets over $1 Million Dollars (USD) can invested in Aptera Motors Inc. being a High Risk Start Up Company because of the SEC Accredited Investor Law. Right now in this part of the plan, Aptera Motors would still be close to bankruptcy still because Steve just used the $30 Million Dollar Investment he got from the suppliers to buy out Aptera Board of Directors Equity Stake. Now Aptera has only $11 Million Dollars to its name. $5 Million Dollars would be for the NASDAQ Listed Fee. Another $5 Million Dollars to pay for newspaper ads, youtube videos and etc. to get the word out there to the people that Aptera Motors Inc. is now going public. You can now buy your own stake in Aptera Motors Inc. The last $1 Million Dollars (USD) be left in the bank to keep Aptera funded until the Aptera Motors Inc. IPO on NASDQ. A lot of people went to invest in the Aptera 2e idea but they cannot invest because of the SEC Laws. When Aptera Motors Inc. gets listed on the NASDAQ, anyone anywhere in the world can buy a stake in Aptera. The total investment from NASDAQ Investors might bring in around $200 Million Dollars (USD)."

Great idea! but impossible without viable funding/finances etc. Should not be step 3 (IMO)


4.) Design, build and run a factory to build Aptera 2e vehicles.
The $200 Million Dollars would be used to build a factory. The factory would be used to build Aptera 2e.

Let's see, 200 million to produce the 2e and sell how many? The only way is to start small and eventually acquire a factory. Spending 200 million on a factory up front will lead to disaster from the start. Witness the statements from Aptera regarding manufacturing location.


"5.) Pay off all the investors with Interest.
When all Aptera debt is pay off and there is enough cash (profits) on hand to keep Aptera running for a few years, Aptera investors would be boughtout with a nice rate of interest if they chose or they can decide to keep their Aptera (Future Apple?) stock."

Of course, that is the goal of every investor.


"6.) The Aptera 2e is a good start but new Aptera Vehicles are needed.
But Aptera 2e cannot be used as the only product for the lifetime of Aptera Motors Inc. My idea is to have an Aptera Five seater (Two seats in front and three seats in back) four door three wheeler with hybrid power (Electric and Gasoline, Biodiesel) for sale in at least in a year from the finish of Step Five."

Of course they will need further vehicles.

"With all of your help, we can help make Aptera Motors Inc. great again.
The future of lightweight/aerodynamic vehicle revolution is coming, will you join us?"

There is more to this I am sure.

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Old 11-01-2011, 11:55 AM
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With all of your help, we can help make Aptera Motors Inc. great again.
The future of lightweight/aerodynamic vehicle revolution is coming, will you join us?

Well, I am hanging out on this forum.

Realistically, that's about all the help you can expect until something substantial changes. If any one of your six actions come to pass, THAT would be inspiring. But listing your suggestions, while nostalgic, is not inspiring (to me).
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Old 11-02-2011, 01:38 AM
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Someone stick a fork in Aptera already, it's done--and has been for a long long time.
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